i never said they gave him a faulty panel nick,read what i said,i do not like veritas panels,i have a an opinion,and i reseverve  the right to state it,am not going to tell peolpe how good some thing is if i think its rubbish,i have tried veritas panels nick,was not overly impressed by them,we do bench tests on lots of  panels,pir,s,bell boxes,you like veritas,brill,why did your grand mother not ask you first t ??for the record ,i dont like menvier either,to me they are very cheap looking,we do not fit cheap  equipment nick,
we would rather lose the job than fit cheap tat,
and by the way,we still use those shock sensors they make now they have sorted the problem out,:-)
                
 gts
                
 April 2013